Sadly, I see problems with both of these.
Bottom line: I expect TCP to stay the way it is and ISPs to take different steps to solve their bandwidth issues. This is where net neutrality is really under threat. Absent a suitable and widely deployed bandwidth sharing algorithm in the network stack, bandwidth shaping by ISPs using altogether cruder tools is probably inevitable.
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1. Ben Rose26/03/2008 14:47:47
Homepage: http://www.jaffacake.net
Electricity...gas...data. All 3 have increased costs as volumes increase. Only one of them has a fixed monthly charge...why?
As much as it would affect me, I can only think it would be fairer for all homes to have a router installed in their meter cupboard with a cat5 connection. As with gas and electric you can choose which provider to sign up with, different tariffs etc. but ultimately you pay for what you use.
I just can't see why data is unmetered when the cost of providing it increases with usage.
2. Bill Brown26/03/2008 14:48:26
Do you know what every single one of those open connections is doing? That many open connections when you are not actively doing anything suggests your machine might be compromised.
3. Ben Rose26/03/2008 15:08:54
Homepage: http://www.jaffacake.net
@Bill - It's not uncommon to have loads of active connections on a machine with a few utilities open these days...especially given the amount of update checking tools there are for tools from Adobe, Apple etc.
Windows update is also pretty guilty of opening lots of connections.
Going back to my metering suggestions above, maybe tools like Windows update would be able to purchase a 'freephone' IP address that wouldn't charge customers for data.
4. Chris Linfoot26/03/2008 15:18:32
@Bill - yes I know what every one of them is and this system is not compromised. Get a command prompt and issue a netstat -a command. You may be surprised.
@Ben - re metering - sounds perfect until you think about it. With gas, I can turn down the heating. With electricity, I can turn off the lights, use energy efficient devices and so on. With water, I can put a brick in the cistern, turn off the tap while I'm brushing my teeth and so on. All very simple actions.
It is far less easy for most people to turn off processes which consume bandwidth. Most people wouldn't know where to start looking, unless you are advocating a policy of switching off the border router until you need to look at a web site.
5. Charles Robinson26/03/2008 21:07:25
It is a little misleading to say that the cost of providing bandwidth increases with usage. ISP's buy capacity in blocks with terms usually measured in years. I don't know of any wholesale provider who bills based on actual usage, but I'm only tertially involved in telephony so you could easily know something I don't. In every case I'm familiar with the costs incurred by the ISP are fixed because they lease X bandwidth for Y period of time at Z cost, then sublet it to customers. In strict economic terms, the more people using the bandwidth the less it costs the ISP.
What does increase costs is providing dedicated bandwidth per user. Guaranteeing everyone 10mbit means there has to be more overall resources than guaranteeing everyone 1mbit. In that sense the cost does go up with usage (in this case that's equivalent to customers or subscribers), but that is certainly known by the ISP's and can be effectively managed. And to be clear, at no time is the ISP paying a metered rate for anything. Tariff rates may go up or down monthly, but that's a whole different set of insanity.
I don't think metered access makes sense because, as Chris points out, you have little control over what you actually use. Even with that being the case, perhaps if Internet access were metered it would add economic incentive to shutting down the spammers and getting companies such as Adobe, Microsoft and Apple to stop wasting bandwidth with their stupid autoupdaters that can't be easily disabled.
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